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  WTS contradictions and Lies

  by drew sagan in

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  part of my strategy in talking with current jw's is using the watchtowers own publications against them.

  it is not sipmly good enough to show them something wrong in an old publication, you also must show where they covered up or contradicted the particuliar teaching or event in a more rescent publication.

  a prime example of this is how the watchtower states that a correct understanding of spiritism must have been understood by the group who became the faithful slave.

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  Here is a link (sorry don't know how to make live) http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/who_is_greber.htm with documentation of coverup - you might find interesting
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  How many here were Df'd under legal age?

  by restrangled in

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  This is a very good question. Df'g a minor and the shunning that follows is cruel and unusual punishment. Like depraved indifference - that kid that has left home with nowhere to go and no incentive to assimilate into normal society because of this sort of emotional blackmail and abuse at the hands of parents and spiritual advisors LOL deserves a better chance at a normal life. then all THEY (abusers) can say is "told you so" makes me crazy - this needs to be out in the open for public scrutiny. Like the polygamists who kick out the "lost boys" and other "escapees" I'm glad this is in the news cause I can spout off about this all I want - hinting of course that the same things are going on in our own family. grrrr I absolutely hate to hear things like "they choose to live that way" No child is born with such goals.
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  WTS contradictions and Lies

  by drew sagan in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  part of my strategy in talking with current jw's is using the watchtowers own publications against them.

  it is not sipmly good enough to show them something wrong in an old publication, you also must show where they covered up or contradicted the particuliar teaching or event in a more rescent publication.

  a prime example of this is how the watchtower states that a correct understanding of spiritism must have been understood by the group who became the faithful slave.

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  They also used that Johannes Gerber guy (sp?) to back up translations and interpretations. John 1:1 comes to mind. then later accused him of being a spirit medium, but kept his "expert testimony" lol I'll try and find the files, but my filing system is crap. wp
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  Another SACRIFICE on the Watchtower Blood Altar.......

  by kid-A in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  winnipeg girl in court to fight blood transfusions last updated: thursday, september 7, 2006 | 8:49 am ct

  cbc news

  http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2006/09/07/jw-crohns.html

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  Is the WT still pro hemopur?
  
  why not let the world know that the god of brooklyn would approve giving this child COW'S blood! -
  
  advertise advertise advertise - http://www.ajwrb.org
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  Manitoba Jehovah's Witness teen says she was scared by forced transfusion

  by Nosferatu in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  apparently, this is on ctv news tonight.

  i'll give an update after i watch it... .

  http://www.news1130.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n090780a.

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  Will Power

  If this child was breast fed, or if she drinks milk - she'd already be ingesting......
  
  TD posted this.
  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/16/120078/1.ashx
  
  Human colostrum contains more white blood cells (Leukocytes, specifically Neutrophils) by volume than does blood itself. This presents a glaring contradiction, because JW's have for years, appealed to "Natural processes" in the allowance of certain blood components. Plasma protiens, for example were allowed based upon transference across the syncytial membrane during gestation. Yet white blood cells, which are directly consumed by lactation, which is about as "Natural" a process as you are ever likely to run across, are forbidden.
  
  Without a very good explanation from the JW organization, the natural corollaries here are twofold. First, JW appeals to the maternal/fetal relationship in the allowance of certain blood components are strictly an argument of convenience and the JW organization is hypocritical for failing to apply it evenly. Second and more importantly, the entire transfusion medicine taboo is flawed at a very basic level.
  
  What does this have to do with Watchtower Farms?
  
  Well as most of you know, the JW's (At the corporate level) placed a great deal of emphasis on self sufficiency at one time. Watchtower Farms produced food for the Bethel tables, with the apparent thought that this would enable operations to continue during "Difficult times." This included dairy products.
  
  Testing the milk is basic to monitoring and maintaining the health of dairy cattle. One of these tests is called the, "California Mastitis Test" and this particular test counts the number of (You guessed it...) white blood cells in milk.
  
  This reading is called the SCC. (Somatic Cell Count) An elevated SCC is indicative of infection of the udder, (Mastitis) and the animal giving the elevated count needs to be treated and the milk discarded. (Current USDA standards allow an SCC of 750K/cm3 for cow's milk and 1000K/cm3 for goat's milk.) This test is not optional if your herd produces milk for human consumption.
  
  What is the point to all of this?
  
  Well, we could forgive an organization of "City boys" who, having never been any closer to a Norwegian Red or a Guernsey than pictures, did not undertand the impact this simple fact of life would have on the religious notion that God has forbade the "Taking In" of certain blood components.
  
  But how can we forgive an organization with firsthand experience in the farming business?
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  UN/DPI NGO Conference now going on--Webcast available

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just noticed that this year's un/dpi ngo conference is now going on.

  it started yesterday and continues through friday.

  it can even be watched via webcast.

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  Will Power

  funny i see ungod in that website hahahahahah - must be a beast lol
  
  is the list of attendees available?
  maybe the WT re-registered under one of their many other corporate names.
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  Watchtower Farms

  by TD in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in regard to jw's and blood, i was thinking about something that jourles said in another thread:.

  if there is one single argument to present to jw's, it is regarding the initial mother-child breast feeding period.

  ask any jw if they would intentionally feed their child(via mouth) a wts banned blood component.

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  can someone send this to the court where WT lawyer brady is fighting to uphold this insanity?
  The newspapers & critics of that Cdn child's story might see the need to inform the public of the WT hypocrisy & qhacky theology.
  
  embarass the hell out of 'em - thats what I say
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  Watchtower Farms

  by TD in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in regard to jw's and blood, i was thinking about something that jourles said in another thread:.

  if there is one single argument to present to jw's, it is regarding the initial mother-child breast feeding period.

  ask any jw if they would intentionally feed their child(via mouth) a wts banned blood component.

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  p.s. thanks for posting that.
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  Another SACRIFICE on the Watchtower Blood Altar.......

  by kid-A in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  winnipeg girl in court to fight blood transfusions last updated: thursday, september 7, 2006 | 8:49 am ct

  cbc news

  http://www.cbc.ca/canada/manitoba/story/2006/09/07/jw-crohns.html

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  Will Power

  wasn't that dr. death umm kevorkian?? -wasn't he found guilty of assisted suicide? of ADULTS?
  
  I see no difference here except the WT searches, coerces (sp?) and enforces the victims supposed "informed" decisions.
  
  blood guilty is right.
  
  They hold their warped symbol of life higher than the life it supposedly represents. Worshipping their idol.
  
  grrrr
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  Anybody been counting on Jesus at the kindumb Hell? Post your Jesus count.

  by hamsterbait in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i' ve been too ill to go for the last few weeks.

  got a big infected cyst, and just missed getting blood poisoning.

  so being tormented in the hell has been low on my list.. thanks god for this forum!!

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  I thought Jesus was Jesus in the 1st century, but now he is michael the archangel
  how can someone be 2 persons at once?
  
  if they spend alot of time calling Jesus, how can they make themselves believe that he is really michael the archangel?
  
  how can Jesus & Michael be 2 places at once? or 2 persons at once? It will be Michael that comes with the call..... 1 thes 416.... oh wait the footnote says its Jehovah coming.....lol
  
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